Ukraine War Day #411: Russian “Mova” Out-Mova Mova – Part II

Dear Readers:

Today continuing (and concluding) my review of this piece by reporters Darya Volkova and Evgeny Pozdnyakov. I forgot to mention that the title of the original piece is:

Russia Will Deprive Ukraine Of Its Mova Monopoly

Which suggests a sort of rivalry as to who will control the Ukrainian literary language. Well, he who writes the textbooks will control the minds of the youth, as nobody used to say.

If you can pronounce the name of this bread, then you may have a slice.

Anyhow, we saw that the topic of teaching Ukrainian in Russian schools, either as a second language, or as part of a bilingual education program, aroused a certain debate within the Russian political intelligentsia. And brought up all the old, usual issues: Is Ukrainian even a language? Should it be taught at all? Is teaching it a concession to Ukrainian Nationalists and neo-Naughties? We saw some references to Ukrainian writers and works of literature which prove that the Ukrainian literary language does, in fact, exist; and has existed; and was even honored and respected by Russians, in the past.

In the next part of this post we move on to the Crimean experience. In accordance with the Crimean Constitution, the Ukrainian language is one of three official state languages, along with Russian and Crimean Tatar. In spite of which, only 197 children could be found in the entire peninsula, who are studying Ukrainian. As opposed to 222,000 who study Russian; and 7,300 who are studying Tatar. One can only visualize Diogenes with his lamp, searching for children who want to study Ukrainian; and coughing up only 197 such urchins.

Ukrainian political pundit Vladimir Skachko: “The Crimean variant is ideal. It is an example of total language freedom, the kind that would be unthinkable in Ukraine itself. People must have the freedom of choice: Which languages (aside from Russian) they elect to learn. The more languages [one knows], the better. Secondly, the Ukrainian language, with its song-like qualities and color — is just as much a part of Russian culture as any of the other languages spoken in Russia.”

On a more Realpolitik level, political analysts such as Larisa Shesler believe it would be a cunning idea for the Russian authorities to dispense their brand of mova onto the bordering territories still controlled by the Ukrainian army. Shesler: “Even though citizens of Ukraine communicate amongst themselves in Russian, in their daily lives; yet they get all their official information from mova.” Hence, paradoxical as this may sound to Russian patriots, the Ukrainian language, among Ukrainian citizens, has risen to the level where it is considered more authoritative than Russian. Control the language, and you control the narrative!

Larisa Shesler: “We can use mova to our own advantage.”

In other words, by communicating their ideas in written mova, pro-Russian sources can get their message out to those kinds of readers, who take it more seriously if it’s in the “official” Ukrainian language. Which they have been brainwashed into believing is a superior carrier of thoughts and ideas.

And, on an even more pragmatic level, Russia needs to have cadres of Ukrainian-language specialists, to help regulate the security situation. This according to Alexei Nechaev, a political analyst based in Kiev. Nechaev points out that the problem of Ukrainian Nationalism is not going to go away in any foreseeable future, especially considering how it is propped up by NATO countries. “For example, intel networks need to infiltrate their agents into the various organizations and structures of the enemy. Which means they need specialists who can pronounce the word паляниця without a Ryazan accent, as Stierlitz might do.” [yalensis: Nechaev is alluding to an old joke about Soviet spies. The Ukrainian word паляниця (pal-ya-nets-ya) which is a type of Ukrainian bread, is typically mispronounced by Russian speakers who don’t understand Ukrainian spelling, they will typically pronounce it as “pal-ya-neetsa”, and this is said to be a litmus test of a Russian spy trying to pass himself off as a Ukrainian!]

Nechaev: “When it comes to the military aspect, specialists are also needed, especially for deciphering reports and intercepted radio communications. They are also needed for investigative work. Just try to interrogate a POW captured in Donetsk who is an ethnic Hutsul and hails from the Carpathian region. Lots of luck with that, because even fellow Galicians from Vinnitsya or Zhitomir can’t understand a word they are saying, let alone people from Kiev.”

In conclusion, Nechaev recommends, that Moscow deprive Ukrainian politicians of their monopoly on mova. To which end, Russian specialists must create their own, de-ideologized and adequate version of the Ukrainiain language. But where are such specialists to be found? How are they to learn Ukrainian? “Well, from a textbook, of course. That is where all knowledge begins.” QED.

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15 Responses to Ukraine War Day #411: Russian “Mova” Out-Mova Mova – Part II

  1. Liborio Guaso says:

    The normal thing would be to discard European racism and move away from Western Nazism, kick out all the local Nazi elements by sending them to Germany as their place of origin and living in peace with neighboring countries.
    Stop nonsense that a Ukrainian will never be a white.

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  2. moon says:

    Stop nonsense that a Ukrainian will never be a white

    Who is arguing that the Ukrainians will never be white? The Germans? Never read about prejudices against the Ukrainian expat community. Before or after WWII no matter if in Europe or across the Atlantic.

    Noel Ignatiev, How the Irish Became White, 1995

    Hmm? γραμματικός, κριτικός, φιλολογός – φιλολογία.

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    • yalensis says:

      Ukrainian ex-pats have, in the past, always been welcomed with open arms in Europe and the U.S./Canada, because they are seen as anti-Russian. (Most of them are, probably, if not all.)

      However, nowadays you are seeing some prejudice against the Ukrainian diaspora in places like Cyprus; and even in parts of Europe, where they are perceived as too demanding and possibly out-staying their welcome.

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  3. Daniel Rich says:

    @ yalensis,

    People must have the freedom of choice.”

    Very much agree. Should be number 1 in anything written by any government.

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  4. Bring back your former picture of Shesler, I beg you!

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    • yalensis says:

      No! (Well, maybe.)

      I tried, Bukko, I tried with all my might, to find a more flattering photo of her. It’s just impossible. I respect Shesler enormously but, let’s face it, she is never going to win a beauty contest. Well, maybe if there is one for inner beauty…

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      • peter moritz says:

        You guys did it now. What the fuck is it about guys who hardly stripped the eggshells from behind their ears, to judge competent women by their looks?

        Is that now a fucking criterion for the assessment of professionals? If you want some smooth looking bimbo, I suggest you check out some porno website, that at the same time lets you assess the skills she might demonstrtae to make available and useful the multitude of orifices for a particular activity, so well already described by a certain French aristocrat.

        Fuck you guys, I have been married for 50 years now, and neither my wife nor I look like the flower of youth anymore, but that, as you might eventually learn unless you fapp yourself to death in front of the computer screen, has nothing to do with a now even stronger mutual acceptance, cherishing your partner, loving and even desiring in the biblical sense of “knowing”.
        Looks really do not come into any of this, and neither should it when talking about a qualified and effective pro of any sort.

        This valuation and acceptance of a person is at a level of a juvenile who bases his assessment of beauty on the most shallow criterion. And as I have found out in my travels through time, in most cases, the depiction of females is based on the ideas about the “perfect” female form and looks pushed by typically gay male fashion czar. But even they now have changed.

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        • peter moritz says:

          I have my ideas regarding female beauty, and the only time I consciously abhor and negatively comment on the looks of a female person is, when her looks match her inner self,; as she displays it to the world.
          The most obvious example is of course Mrs. “child killer” M. Albright, and the connoisseur of anal torture, Mrs. H Clinton, among the more recent crowd.

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        • You are revealing your own sexism, sir! Why would you think I was insulting the intrepid reporter’s looks, unless that is in YOUR mind?!? I made an ambiguous comment, and you read evil intent into it. It might just be that I prefer face-forward angles in photographs because they are less distracting. Or that I’m accustomed to that one shot of Shes because Yalensis has used it so often. I think he has a thing for her. What about that red-headed Russian reportress you’ve translated before, Y? Now she was a firecracker!

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          • yalensis says:

            Any photo of Shesler, coupled with reading her comments and opinions, you can get a very good idea of her personality: This is a very tough but kind woman who wants what is best for everyone.

            In Bukko’s defense, I knew what he meant: He likes that aviator-glasses pic of her, because she looks sort of cool and tough at the same time. For this particular caption/joke, I thought the other pic went well.

            C’mon, guys, don’t you like my funny captions? I crack myself up, sometimes.

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  5. How do you pronounce palyanitsa in Ukrainian?

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  6. No, you (and Moritz) interpreted my quip as it was meant. There are a lot of people who comment on your blog who are quite serious (including me) and it’s serious stuff you write about. Sometimes I prefer to be silly. But what’s the point of getting on high dudgeon about someone else’s innocuous snark? It’s virtue-signalling, influential only to the person who signalled, though. “I am morally superior!” As if anyone cared…

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    • yalensis says:

      Well said, Bukko. A little harmless silliness helps to relieve the tension. Otherwise we would all be running about ranting like some mad, traumatized characters out of a Dostoevsky novel.

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