Ukraine War Day #410: Russian “Mova” Out-Mova Mova – Part I

Dear Readers:

Today I have this piece for your delectation. The reporters are Darya Volkova and Evgeny Pozdnyakov. The topic is Russian language policy in the new territories. To the distaste of some Russian super-patriots (who would like to do away with the Ukrainian language altogether), the Russian Ministry of Education (technically “of Enlightenment”) is working hard to refurbish the Ukrainian language textbooks, for the Enlightenment of schoolchildren in the Donbass and other new territories (such as Zaporozhie and Kherson).

Aratta, Ukraine: The world’s oldest civilization

Before proceeding with the discussion, one needs to recall that a couple of generations of children have grown up in those territories, living under the complete domination of Ukrainization, of both language and thought. Even those children who speak Russian at home were submitted to years of propaganda and brainwashing in the schools: They were taught that ancient Ukrainians built all of Western civilization, whereas Russians, with their barbaric guttural language, are just hordes of Mongolic barbarians. Depending on their home lives, many of the schoolchildren may have just laughed at a lot of this; but nonetheless some of this nonsense may have crept into their subconscious. Either way, they got used to the idea of the Ukrainian language as the conveyor of political ideas and higher thoughts, whereas Russian is just the language they speak around the kitchen, with their family, and which they use to discuss ordinary “kitchen” topics.

Language As Politics

In the new territories of the Russian Federation, the Ukrainian language will be an elective topic, but the educators want to make sure the textbooks are appropriate and don’t contain neo-Naughty ideas, as do the current Ukrainian textbooks. Children who speak Russian as their native language, will be offered the opportunity to learn, or brush up on, their Ukrainian language skills. Children who speak Ukrainian as their native language at home, will have the opportunity to perfect and master their own mother tongue as a literary language, but one freed of the anti-Russian bias and geopolitical delusions.

Alexander Bugaev

These plans were announced by Alexander Bugaev, who serves as the Deputy Minister of Enlightenment for the Russian Federation. Although Bugaev looks like everybody’s favorite math teacher, his announcement set off a furor of debate and discussion over the internet. For some reason, his very normal idea is now considered controversial. Bugaev says the new textbooks have already been unleashed in the 5th through 9th grades, and that this is just standard policy for all of the languages used as native by the various nationalities dwelling in the Russian Federation: “This is the correct thing to do, because a person has the right, if they desire, to learn and master their own native language. We are preparing a textbook that expresses the full beauty, the full purity of the traditional Ukrainian language, the type that was studied in the Soviet period, in the best of our national pedagogic traditions.”

Aha! Returning to Soviet traditions, that will explode a lot of heads. But maybe the Soviets weren’t such crude dummies as everyone thinks? Maybe they knew a thing or two about how to keep people talking to one another in different languages, without pulling out the knives?

But why the controversy when it comes to Russian children studying Ukrainian? Well, isn’t it obvious? Publicist and historian Egor Kholmogorov points out that “Ukrainian mova [language] served as the instrument for constructing an anti-Russia. Any schoolchild who reads any texts in Ukrainian outside the framework of the school program, can easily see for himself.” What he means is that, all you have to do is pick up any Ukrainian publication of the last 30 years, and it’s just, Russians bad, Slava Bandera! A sweet child from the Donbass will sit in his classroom reading his brand new Ukrainian textbook, prepared by that nice Mr. Bugaev, and it’s all flowers and rainbows, and he will learn to sing cute little songs in Ukrainian; but the moment he gets home and opens a Ukrainian newspaper to brush up on his skills – BAM! Hatred and bile galore.

Telejournalist Andrei Medvedev also questions the formulation of “classical Ukrainian language” which, he insists, never even existed 100 years ago. He believes that what existed were a series of dialects, or various flavors of mova such as “kulishovka” or “dragomanovka” and the like. In Western Ukraine, standard Russian was actually used as the norm up until a certain point. “So exactly which language are you trying to force down children’s throats? And the main question is: Why? If it’s the variant of Ukrainian used by, for example, the writer Ostap Vishnya, then that was a language that was born of Bolshevik Ukrainization. I am not complaining for the sake of complaining. I just want to understand the logic of this.”

Ivan Kotlyarevsky: Ukrainan poet and playwright of the 1800’s.
A scene from Gulak’s opera.

Medvedev’s debating points are countered by those who point out that, even in times of the Tsarist Empire, works were published that are considered nowadays to be “classics of the Ukrainian language”. These works include the poem “Eneida” by Ivan Kotlyarevsky; the writer also included a “dictionary of Little Russian words” as an appendix to his work.

[yalensis: Once again, I remind readers that the term “Little Russian” is not a derogatory nor even a diminutive, it simply refers to “Micro-Russia”, similar to “Micro-nesia” or other “micros” regarded as the heartland whence explorers expanded the territories. And as contrasted to “Greater” or “Magna” territories, for example “Magna Graecia”, hence “Greater Russia”, as the boundaries expand outward from the heartland and something akin to “colonization” takes place.]

Another example of a purely Ukrainian literary work is is the opera “A Zaporozhian on the Danube” by Semyon Gulak-Artyomovsky. This work is considered the very first Ukrainian opera, and also dates from the 1800’s. Works such as this prove not only that the Ukrainian language existed (as Lenin and the Bolsheviks insisted), but was also capable of producing high-quality literary and musical works. Gulak’s opera was produced many times in both Tsarist Russia and the Soviet Union and there were several film versions as well. Gulak was a student of one of Russia’s greatest composes, Mikhail Glinka. A genius in his own right, he added an important “national coloring” to the Russian imperial fabric.

Literary Ukrainian vs Kitchen Russian

But back on the anti-Ukrainian side of the fence: We have State Duma Deputy Anatoly Wasserman who insists that Ukrainian mova is just a dialect of Greater Russian. But Wasserman has no objection to children studying this “dialect” in school if they wish to do so. He even concedes, albeit reluctantly, that “many good literary texts are written in this dialect. Which means that it is our job to preserve this heritage.”

Igor Kastiukevich: “We’ll fix those Naughty textbooks!”

A similar point of view is held by Igor Kastiukevich, who heads the United Russia Party’s regional division in the Kherson Oblast: “People in the new regions regard themselves as an indivisible component of Russia. They want, and hope for, the quickest possible integration. But many of them, including the children, speak in Ukrainian. We have to take that fact into account.”

Kastiukevich: In the Zaporozhie and Kherson Oblasts, the Ukrainian language will be taught as an elective. Correspondingly, all the textbooks and workbooks need to be worked over by our professionals. [yalensis: again, need to excise the neo-Naughty bits from the current textbooks…] We need to instill in our children a love for their region and for their country, we need to instill in them an urge to develop and build, instead of the urge for hatred and destruction. And they must learn history the way it actually happened.” [yalensis: That’s a radical idea!]

Berdichevsky: “I just don’t see the point…”

Back to the other side of the fence: DPR Parliamentarian Vladislav Berdichevsky thinks the creation of a new Ukrainian textbook is just “a useless idea”. In his view, the Ukrainian language simply will not be able to compete with other languages. “But on the other hand, we are not savages, nobody in Russia is ever going to ban any languages. We have many local and regional languages, because Russia is a free and multi-national country.”

[yalensis: I don’t think Berdichevsky understands how Scientific Linguistics works. In theory, any language or dialect that is somewhere above the level of a pidgin, can be competitive as a high-level literary language and conveyor of exalted thoughts. To be sure, you need a cadre of literary writers who are prepared to churn out great works of art. (It also helps to have an army and a navy backing up their efforts.) The candidate dialect also needs to have its own branch in the Academy of Sciences, with scholars who get paid to compile dictionaries and suggest correct usage, etc. The one thing you don’t want is to do what the Soviets often did, i.e., appoint Philologists to these critical positions. Appoint Scientific Linguists, but never Philologists. Many Philologists are simply charlatans, and even the ones who are not, you simply can’t trust them. That would be my advice, take it or leave it…]

Next: Crimea as an example to emulate.

[to be continued]

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18 Responses to Ukraine War Day #410: Russian “Mova” Out-Mova Mova – Part I

  1. Ortensio says:

    Si no se entiende que el idioma es expresión del espiritu , no se entiende algo respecto a un idioma .
    Si no se entiende que la fragmentación del espiritu, la enajenacion del espiritu produce la diversidad de idiomas . No se entiende nada respecto a los idiomas .

    Si no se entiende que la diversidad de idiomas no es sino sintoma de alienación del espiritu , no se entiende algo respecto a la inquietud, pero alienada, del espiritu .

    No tienen justificacion la diversidad de idiomas y la promocion de idiomas si antes no existe una unificacion del espiritu . Entonces casi todos los idiomas serán algo folklorico y el folklore sin alma, es algo estupido .

    En Donbass ¿ quieren unificar el resentimiento ucraniano con el espiritu ruso ?

    El idioma ingles se mantiene porque aun aguantamos el imperio anglosajon .

    Del otro idioma no quiero formar una tesis doctoral, porque me afecta . Solo se que el mundo es el idioma no materno mas estudiado . ¿ Por que , aun habiendo desaparecido el imperio entre 1898 y 1975, aun es el idioma predilecto y querido en el Sahara, En Guinea Ecuatorial ,

    Como dicen algunos comentarios en el sitio Ron Unz , … tendremos que comenzar a aprender español .

    ¿ Donde reside, aunque temporalmente la mejor pianista ( rusa ) actual ?
    ¿ Donde reside la , posiblemente mejor mezzo del momento ?

    Los rusos ( hombres y dirigentes ), están dormidos . Deberían observar mas a sus mujeres , porque las que conoci en Madrid, ellas entienden donde reside el mas fuerte espiritu . Y sustraerlo hacia Rusia .

    ¡ Que manera tenemos los humanoides de jugar a perder el tiempo !

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  2. S Brennan says:

    Prepare for Peace with the vigor you would prepare for war. Russia has shown it knows how to do this in Chechnya. Yes, DC and London’s 3LAs will attempt to continue the destruction by sponsoring terrorism, it is their way, Satan’s way…if you can’t steal it-you must break it. The Russian way in Chechnya is to limit the number & loyalty of willing expendables the 3LAs can recruit to thugs of low intelligence.

    To that, the lesson of Ukrainia, Syria and Libya must be taught, when you revolt under the agency of DC and/or London, your sole purpose is to enslave a nation and failing that, destroy said nation. To your handlers, your life is meaningless, they do not work with the consent of the nations that they parasite upon, consequently, you mean nothing to those nations.

    So, realistically speaking, what Russia is doing above is all to the good but the hard part will come when DC/London pushes mightily for the return of Ukrainia’s millions emigres as the incipient canards of terrorist cells. This will be unlike Chechnya and Russia better prepare for their response to the 3LAs PR onslaught, it will be their fig leaf.

    While the policymakers of DC & London are piss-poor at their legal obligations-governance, industrial development, civilian infrastructure..even war, they are excellent at the illegal activities that the US Constitution strictly forbids-state-sponsored-terrorism and full spectrum media control.

    This horrible war must end, for it to end Russia must win decisively both militarily and in the hearts & minds of living along the Black sea coast and east of the Dnieper River*.

    *Anything more should be strictly punitive and…short-lived, except, for a necessity of a large free-fire DMZ that gives missile defense it’s most valuable variable, time. I suggest that a large DMZ in the western Ukrainia could be put under Hungarian control, in the north, Belarus and the scrap that lies between, to the Poles…should they be willing to come to the table.

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  3. therealrightway says:

    I agree however far more interesting for me is finding out only recently that it was actually Ukrainians who really built the pyramids, that’s what their govt tells them anyway so who knows? I also read somewhere that the Galician region of Austria-Hungary was known as being illiterate, after the post WW1 carve up so who are they to preach about linguistics.

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    • yalensis says:

      You didn’t know that the Ukrainians built the pyramids? You need to bone up on your history, dude! The ancient city of Uruk, in Mesopotamia, that was built by ancient Ukrainians as well. That’s my theory, but it’s so obvious, just from the name. Uruk, the middle vowel falls out, so URK, plural Ur-ky, then via what Phoneticians call “pleophony”, the word Urky morphs to Ukry. QED!

      My Nobel Prize, if you please…
      🙂

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  4. Liborio Guaso says:

    It is not about language, the big problem is the sowers of hate who use any reason to divide and achieve their purposes.
    A while ago someone told me that the bad thing is not the dollars but those who use them to exploit others.

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  5. Hi Yalensis – very pretty picture you posted of Aratta, Ukraine (although our Turkish friends at Nemrut Dag may have some comments).
    Thanks for your blog – always interesting!

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    • yalensis says:

      Hi, Cecile. So, am I to understand that the Turks claim this archaeological site? Well, they just don’t understand ancient history, boo! (Or how geography can shift around sometimes…)
      🙂

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    • I think there’s something a bit sus about that photo of Ukraine’s ancient civilisation at Arrata. The faces of the stone sculptures don’t look all that European, or even Slavic! OK, the beardy conehead in the centre could be a proto-Kievan Rus warrior — it emits a Viking/Varangian vibe. But the one to the left of it, with the high-top headdress — shows Indian or Khmer influences. What does that say about the purity of those paleolnazic Ukrainian ancestors, eh? Was there some race-mixing going on?!? And there’s some definite Mediterranean — dare I say TURKISH? — features to the fortifications. Sadly, this World Heritage listed feature of the Ukrainian landscape — where is it located again? I couldn’t find it on a map, but I assume that’s because I don’t know how Aratta is spelled in Cyrillic — indicates the predecessors of Bandera might not be as Aryan as the current regime would like to believe. Maybe more like “Sumarayan…”

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      • yalensis says:

        Don’t you get it, Bukko? That civilization must have been founded by space visitors from another galaxy! Or maybe humans from our own future – the Federation of Planets. That’s why some of them are coneheads and others look like, well, you know, how can I put it politely, the lower sort… lion people and turtle people and that sort of thing…

        But at least none of them have moustaches or goatees, which proves that they are members of our own, not a Parallel, universe. Thank goodness for that. Those Parallelists are always baddies.

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        • Bukko – I wonder if Yalensis is onto something here? (letting the cat out of the bag Yalensis, you bad boy)
          – All the talk of taking back Crimea may be an intentional misdirection to fool the evil Mr Putin – the real direction of the ‘greatest offensive’ will be to take back the historic lands, ie Nemrut Dag in Turkey on the way to Aratta in Iran?
          A fleet of drones setting out from Odessa…to the rising sun of former greatness, and all that…

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  6. Readingjunkie claims the “secret documents” were leaked by some Pentagon idiot in order to win an Internet argument:

    https://readingjunkie.com/2023/04/08/source-of-the-pentagon-leak-exposed/

    Stupid as that sounds, it’s still far more believable than a guest author on Larry Johnson’s blog who claimed the Russians released the photos to lay the legal framework for proving Amerikastani assistance to the nazis.

    https://sonar21.com/why-putin-may-have-exposed-the-us-nato-ukraine-operations-documents/

    (Because sloppily photographed documents are the best the Russians can do to expose Amerikastani help to the nazis, apparently?)

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    • yalensis says:

      I heard that Russian disinfo spooks also misspelled NASAMS a couple of times (as NASAM, without the final S) on their photoshopped fakes. Tsk tsk…

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    • JMF says:

      Fiendly: Saw that second article on LJ’s site and, like you, found it remarkably speculative and pretty unconvincing. In contrast, two of Larry’s VIPS colleagues — Karen Kwiatowski and Phil Giraldi — expressed no doubt that the leaks were an inside job.

      And the following article makes it eminently clear to me that the Russians would have no reason to leak the docs if they’re legitimate:

      Chinese Media Reveals Why Russia Unlikely to Have Leaked Sensitive Ukraine Docs
      https://sputnikglobe.com/20230410/chinese-media-reveals-why-russia-unlikely-to-have-leaked-sensitive-ukraine-docs-1109323820.html

      Moreover, in all the accounts I’ve seen thus far, the only “alterations” actually indicated are in the casualty counts — 4:1 Ukr v RF KIAs. That at least suggests to me that any “altered” documents were a subsequent, deliberate leak by the Pentagon, intended to cover up their fraudulent claims. To wit, the 4:1 (actually wildly conservative) figure is probably the legitimate doc. The Pentagon and MSM have been alleging something more like 1:2 Ukr v RF KIAs, a bald- faced lie.

      The 17,000 Russian KIAs jibes with Russia’s own figures. But all realistic Ukrainian KIA figures I’ve seen are more in the range of 200,000.

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  7. Daniel Rich says:

    Teach the entire world Esperanto. One world. One language [specifically not saying One Government], because it helps when people can understand each other and can communicate with each other

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    • yalensis says:

      I could back that idea. Back in the Middle Ages, everybody in Europe learned Latin in school, and it helped to communicate across different European cultures. (I read that even some people in China learned Latin and it helped them to become ambassadors and stuff.)

      I personally like Latin better than Esperanto, but the latter has the virtue of being deliberately simple. No tricky grammatical loopholes.

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      • Daniel Rich says:

        @ yalensis,

        Like you. I so very much long to live in peace. Simply/simple: Peace & Harmony. That’s ll I want. Be like brothers and Sisters.

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  8. countrumford says:

    Language as politics is an interesting topic. It is my understanding (perhaps flawed) that if you emigrate to Quebec and speak neither English nor French your children must attend a French speaking school. There is push back from émigrés who would prefer an open choice. The density of speakers probably plays a role. Can one get around Moscow with only English? Are there Russian creole languages?

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    • yalensis says:

      Hi, countrumford. I think what you heard about Quebec is probably true. They are very serious about being French and protect their heritage fiercely. Being a bit of a Francophile, I can’t say I blame them.

      Okay, regarding Moscow: You can probably get around just knowing English if you stick to major hotels and tourist spots; or places that cater to tourists. The only problem would arise if you run out of some vital item and need to duck into a supermarket or pharmacy, for example. The staff there might not necessarily speak English. But you can always point at stuff, LOL!

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