Ukraine War Day #720: Tucker Carlson And The Khmelnitsky File – Part I

The Khmelnitsky File” – it sounds like the title of a spy thriller, no? Or maybe sci-fi: Within this trove of documents is contained the key to decrypting the archives of an ancient, alien civilization, along with their matter-bending and time-travelling technology. But first, one must decode ancient runic symbols of the Old Church Slavonic alphabet… Paging Professor Robert Langdon! No, forget Langdon, we have reporter Matvei Malgin to help us decipher these interesting clues.

One of the more interesting moments in the famous (or perhaps infamous) Carlson-Putin interview was when Putin handed Tucker a portfolio of Russian historical documents. Copies of original source material consisting of letters written by Ukrainian Hetman Bogdan Khmelnitsky to the Russian Tsar.

These archives, along with Putin’s 30-minute lecture on Russian-Ukrainian history to his American audience (with lots of kudos to Putin’s simultaneous interpreter, who did a superb job as translator!), are meant to open American eyes to the historical truth. Which is almost 360 degrees away [little joke there] from the fake history and outright lies as propounded in Ukrainian textbooks!

Tucker: ”Er… is this going to be on the test?”

For example, Ukrainians teach that, in the 17th century there was a certain “Ukrainian Cossack State”, which they regard as a forerunner to their current nationhood.

Not so, retorts Putin. Read these letters. Read ’em and weep.

In addition to “Cossack statehood”, Ukrainians base their national myth on the notion that they are the inheritors to Kievan Rus. That they are the “true Russians”, and the current residents of Russia itself are imposters, the “mordva“, in other words products of racially inferior Asiatic tribes posing as Slavs. Ukrainians also claim that the daughter of Yaroslav the Wise, who married a French King, was a Ukrainian maiden. This type of nonsense is taught in all the Ukrainian schools and propagated to the masses via popular culture.

Putin, assuming that the American people know anything about any of this, can actually point to Ukraine on a map, and are deeply invested in the Ukrainian mythology, has set about to refute these myths, using Tucker as his means of communication. Tucker, the CIA agent.

[yalensis: My favorite moment in the interview: Tucker asks bluntly: ”Who blew up NordStream?” Putin responds equally bluntly: ”You did!” Tucker (without missing a beat): ”It wasn’t me. I was busy that day.” Putin: ”No, I mean YOU, the CIA!”]

Khmelnitsky Epistles

So, what is actually contained in these epistles from the Russian archives?

Putin to Carlson: “Here are documents from the archives. These are copies. Here are the letters of Bogdan Khmelnitsky, the person who controlled the government in that portion of the Russian lands that we currently call the Ukraine. He wrote to Warsaw, demanding that their [Cossack] rights be respected. And when his demand was refused, he started writing letters to Moscow, with a request to take them [the Cossacks] under the strong hand of the Russian Tsar. Here are copies of these documents. I am giving them to you as a souvenir. The packet includes a translation into Russian [from the Surzhik dialect], and then somebody can translate for you into English.”

Malgin: We [reporters] lack a table of contents of what was actually handed over to Tucker, but our [Russian] historians are fully cognizant with the contents of Khmelnitsky’s epistles to Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich, as well as to the Polish King. These letters have been published many times and were even compiled into the contents of one book, entitled The Documents of Bogdan Khmelnitsky (Kiev, 1961).

Khmelnitsky was literate in several languages. When he wrote to the Tsar, he used his own spoken dialect, which was Surzhik (similar to modern Russian-Ukrainian, but with a hefty dose of Polish vocabulary). Whenever he wrote to the Polish King Jan II Kazimierz, or to any of the Polish noblemen, he wrote in Polish. When he wrote to the Swedish Princess, he used Latin.

Of note, and facilitating the current Russian claim to these lands, is that nowhere and no how, in any of his letters, in any language that he used, did Khmelnitsky ever used the words “Ukraine” or “Ukrainian”. Instead, he called himself a Zaporozhian. For example, here is a fragment of a letter* from June 8, 1648 (*footnote: ЦГАДА, ф. 124. Малороссийские дела, оп. 3, № 28, л. 2 (подлинник). Опубл.: Памятники КК. – Т. I. – С. 219–221; Акты, относящиеся к истории южной и западной России., Т. 3., стр. 207–208):

“To Your Tsarist Greatness from your humble servant, Bogdan Khmelnitsky, Zaporozhian Hetman in the service his Merciful King…” Khmelnitsky was in the service of the Polish King at the time, but also professing himself as the humble servant of the Russian Tsar. Ukrainian Nationalists, of course, dismiss all of this as Khmelnitsky’s grotesque act of treason. But the key point being, that the Hetman never describes himself as a Ukrainian, even though the word “Ukraine” was in use at the time, as a loose designation of Russia’s western border regions.

During the Soviet period, Soviet historians described this particular letter as “a communication of Khmelnitsky’s victories over the Polish army, and the desire of the Ukrainian people to unify with Russia.”

Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich

In this letter to the Tsar, Khmelnitsky describes two major grievances of the Cossacks against the Polish King, the first being religious oppression of the Orthodox Cossacks. Here is a fragment written in the original Surzhik:

 «…радостно пришло нам твою царскую велможност видомим учинити оповоженю вири нашое старожитной греческой, за которую з давних часов и за волности свои криваве заслужоние, от королей давних надание помир[ем] и до тих час от безбожних ариян покою не маем».

[yalensis: The piece doesn’t give a translation into Russian, and my Surzhik isn’t as good as it used to be, but I can understand certain words or phrases like “trying to oppress our ancient Greek religion and impose their own godless Arianist sect…]

Attempting to enlist the Tsar’s help against this forced Polonization and Catholization, the Hetman proposes the following:

«Зичили бихмо соби самодержца господаря такого в своей земли, яко ваша царская велможност православний хрестиянский цар, азали би предвичное пророчество от Христа Бога нашего исполнилося, што все в руках его святое милости. В чом упевняем ваше царское величество, если би била на то воля Божая, а поспех твуй царский зараз, не бавячися, на панство тое наступати, а ми зо всим Войском Запорозким услужить вашой царской велможности готовисмо, до которогосмо з найнижшими услугами своими яко найпилне ся отдаемо»

[something about your Gracious Autocrat, Orthodox Christian Tsar, may you fulfill the prophecy of Jesus Christ and take us into your hands with holy mercy, and thus we implore your Tsarist Greatness, if it should please God, to bring your rule into the land, and we, with our Zaporozhian troops will serve Your Tsarist Greatness as your humble servants…]

In other words, Khmelnitsky just had it up to here with the Polish Catholics and the haughty way they treated the Orthodox Cossacks and the local people. But the key point here, he always calls himself a Zaporozhian, and never a Ukrainian. This is important, somehow, in Putin’s quest to debunk the myth of Ukrainian statehood…

[to be continued]

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42 Responses to Ukraine War Day #720: Tucker Carlson And The Khmelnitsky File – Part I

  1. MrDomingo says:

    I have a question for everyone here in regards to one of Ukrainian myths that claims that Black Sea was dug-up by Ukrainians, using African slaves as is seen in video on this blog:
    https://sharpfocusafrica.substack.com/p/origin-of-the-black-sea-the-african
    Now stopfake.org website claims that whole story about Ukrainian claims is a fake created by Russians (who else) but that Substack video, I can’t help but feel that the woman seems Ukrainian. Perhaps she is. Any ideas?

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    • yalensis says:

      It’s not a fake. This is what they teach in Ukrainian schools and textbooks. And it’s all true, by the way. The ancient Ukry invented ocean-digging-spoon technology. It is said that they were very cruel slavemasters to the Africans, they even taught Simon Legree every trick he knew!

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      • Bukko Boomeranger says:

        I am on the same page with Mr. Domingo in my incredulity. Ukies SERIOUSLY teach that the Black Sea is a man-made creation?!?

        These are rhetorical questions I’m posing here, because you’re not in the midst of Ukranazistan. You semi-address this in one of your other responses downthread. But do they teach this in ALL schools? Or is it just some fringe few, like the Christopathic academies that stupidify children by claiming the universe was LITERALLY created in six days and that humans lived alongside dinosaurs. (Whereas any faith-filled KKKhristian knows that “dinosaur bones” are fakes that were planted by the Devil to mislead humanity down the Doomed Path Of Darwinism. Any fact you don’t like, just say “the debbil did it” and you don’t have to think any more.) Do the Ukes say WHEN this incredible excavation happened? Coz the ancient Greeks, Jason and the Argonauts etc. had lore about the Black Sea existing centuries before Christ. Does anybody bother to nut out how many slaves it would take to dig such a big hole? How did they get there, where did they live during the project and where did they go when the job was done? All the dirt that was moved to make the sea-hole — what’d they do with it? Coz that would have left a big pile. Don’t tell me they claim that’s where the Carpathian mountains came from.

        In short, how can anybody — even the most ardent Ukrosupremacist — spout such bollocks without feeling ludicrous? Pondering the particulars for even five seconds ought to be enough to make them shut their yaps. OTOH, humanity has a long history of believing utter nonsense. Look how long the God delusion has persisted! The idea that some miraculous entity is up there that doesn’t have to obey Newtonian laws of physics… Various forms of that have been around since the days of Dagon and Ra; no doubt in myths that people believed before there were written records. The ignorant old-timers had the excuse of there being no microscopes, atomic theory, etc. when they were mouthing their mything. But Kee-rist! It’s NOW. Who would even burn whatever fraction of a calorie it takes to fire up some brain cells that command their mouth to pronounce this moronity?

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        • yalensis says:

          This excavation would have taken place in very ancient times, even before Jason and the Argonauts. That’s a very good question, though, about where the slaves put the dirt. Maybe they did like the POW’s at the Stalag Luft III camp and just snuck the dirt out in the legs of their trousers? And then scattered it out discretely in other regions. Not the Carpathians, though, that’s too far away.

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  2. I agree that the Nordstream Pipeline exchange was the funniest part of the interview (Mr. Carlson has some comedic timing), but what did Mr. Putin actually say? (I haven’t found an official Russian transcript.) Did he use

    ТЫ or ВЫ ?

    Singular or plural? Or was this a subtle joke based on the ambiguity between the formal singular “you” versus the plural?

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    • While English and standard American have lost this distinction, Southern English has not – it is the difference between

      You did it

      and

      Y’all did it.

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      • yalensis says:

        Haha, Marshall, I speak a little Texan, and they use still a third plural All y’all

        In Texas, if you say, “Y’all did it,” that could STILL be actually the singular, believe it or not. But if you said “All y’all did it!” then it was definitely more than one person who blew up the pipeline.

        In the Northeast USA, where I live, African-Americans say “y’all” but I never heard any of them say “all y’all”. On the other hand, I have heard white people say “Youse” for the plural. As in “Youse blew up da pipeline, and everybody knows it!”

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    • yalensis says:

      Hi, Marshall, that would have been super-funny if Putin had usedТЫ, but no, he used the plural ВЫ. Granted, it’s hard to hear, because Putin’s voice is softened as the voice of the translator dominates, but you can judge for yourself:

      Here is a link with a handy “table of contents” (of timestamps). The discussion of Nordstream is at timestamp 1:11:33, you can just click on that link in the “table of contents” and it will bring you right there:

      https://tuckercarlson.com/the-vladimir-putin-interview/

      Also, after they finish chuckling over the joke, Putin adds, I’m pretty sure I can overhear what he says, it’s something like u vas lichno (“not you personally”), but it’s still in the plural. This confirms that Putin addresses Tucker in the formal “vy”, which is what I would have expected. In this context, it would have been actually rude and demeaning to address an important foreign guest as “ty”.

      Unfortunately, addressing him in the formal/plural only adds to the semantic ambiguity!

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  3. “Khmelnitsky was literate in several languages. When he wrote to the Tsar, he used his own spoken dialect, which was Surzhik (similar to modern Russian-Ukrainian, but with a hefty dose of Polish vocabulary). Whenever he wrote to the Polish King Jan II Kazimierz, or to any of the Polish noblemen, he wrote in Polish. When he wrote to the Swedish Princess, he used Latin.”

    Imagine any of the NAFO keyboard warriors being able to understand, let alone speak, (let alone)² write, two languages, let alone three.

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    • S Brennan says:

      Well, I’d plead guilty to being language deficient. I’d argue that brains are different, we all have talents and deficits.

      As a child the Catholic nuns got me to a rudimentary level in French but, when the boys were separated from the girls in in 3rd grade, the Viatorian Brothers took over our education, French lessons stopped entirely. In High School it was a choice of German/Latin/Spanish.

      It’s not easy to learn a language when nobody around you speaks it, a faculty unused in youth is unlikely to develop spontaneously in later life. That said the 3LA known as the Department of State is notorious for it’s lack of language skills and that is…unacceptable.

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    • yalensis says:

      I know! Being able to write in a foreign language is the ultimate skill.

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  4. the pair says:

    i only watched the first half yesterday but i have to say putin’s way of speaking in general was amusing. he described the US response to his offers of diplomacy as “get lost!” (which would have been better as “amscray you mugs!”) and his swipe at carlson’s past(?) CIA enthusiasm was priceless. his translator was indeed impressive…i’ve learned through various attempts at various languages that the hardest part is listening and understanding. doing that with spontaneous interruptions and idioms and such is a special skill.

    i’ve seen doctorow and some others complain the interview went long and the history lesson should have been edited and etc etc but it’s nice to see a head of state talk and act like a professor as opposed to the used car salesmen (and -women) we got stuck with in the west. i also like how he shot down carlson’s usual idiotic china bashing. it’s odd that the latter swims in the same waters as the “derp trump vs deep state” crowd but doesn’t seem to realize the CIA are the voltron head of said “state”. or he does and just doesn’t care because he’s dumb.

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  5. S Brennan says:

    Great Y,

    Good to see you picking up the ball and running with it!

    While I thought, Putin’s effort to educate western audiences in 11 centuries worth of history a lost cause, within the interview format, I did/do-not denigrate/mock the effort to educate western audiences in the manner that the neocoloni/gilded-age-econs [DNCers and Cheney-Rs] are doing now in the 3LA media outlets. The open mockery of history displayed by neocoloni/gilded-age-econs reveals for all to see their mono-culture of studied ignorance of factual data sets.

    Maybe RT could do something useful [???]and put together a SERIOUS [non-American/Anglo-style] DOCUMENTARY that covers the subject matter of Putin’s monologue with maps/illustrations/documents. And I offer, don’t switch back and forth between “centuries” and years AD, one or the other….throughout. I recommend years AD as being easier to follow.

    BTW, never proven but, long rumored Tucker Carlson’s father [at one time, an intrepid SoCal reporter] has long been rumored to be a CIA asset/agent.

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  6. ccdrakesannetnejp says:

    Yalensis, thanks for your interesting exegeses. I’d like to ask you a question: Are all the fake claims about Ukraine history coming from the fevered mind of OUN founder Smytro Dontsov in the 1920s, or were they mostly cooked up after WW2 by OUN exiles living among members of the Ukrainian diaspora and in contact with western intel? I.e., do you think there was some “creative writing” input from Nato countries for the purpose of “nation building” in Ukraine? Why don’t you write a book about all the hothouse mythology that has been created concerning the history of what is now called Ukraine. Right now there’s no market for such an expose, but in three or four years there probably will be a modest market for such a book. Tucker might even discuss it.

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  7. australianlady9 says:

    Istanbul on the European side of the Bosphorus is the largest city in Europe and not Moscow which Tucker attributes with that status. Did anyone in the U.S. pick up on that little error of geographical fact?

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    • I travel enough to not trust Mr. Carlson’s descriptions of such matters, or frankly pay much attention to them.

      But, if you want to be picky, and use metropolitan populations:

      The current metro area population of Paris in 2024 is 11,277,000,
      The current metro area population of Moscow in 2024 is 12,712,000,
      London/Metro population is 14,800,000
      Since the two bridges were built, metro Istanbul is definitely in both continents, with a population of over 15 million residents

      One trouble with this (and another reason not to pay too much attention to it) is that metro areas are defined differently and so the populations of these cities can bounce up and down by millions depending on which definition you use.

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  8. Bukko Boomeranger says:

    Just for your gits ‘n shiggles, I’m reporting my surveillance from that Balloon Juice website that I look in on to see what the svidomites are thinking. Today (Feb. 14 here, would be the 13th in the U.S. where the site is based) they finally get around to having a post about it. The interview aired Feb. 9, so that’s a four-day lag. There are a lot of contributors at the site so it’s not like it’s a low-traffic place with no one to write it up. My take is that these “I (((heart))) Hillary” types were trying to ignore it but they finally had to say SOMETHING. I won’t pull any quotes or cite the cope and cringe reactions from the post. Not worth the time. They’re as bad as you’d expect, though.

    OK, just one, a Twaat from someone with a NAFO avatar:

    “Yes, the Russian government pools all the nation resources into creating and maintaining a Potemkin showpiece city, while the rest of the nation has no plumbing or drivable roads, precisely because morons like @TuckerCarlson
    will come away awed to spread tales of Russia’s glory.”

    I also read the comments, of which were only 38 when I checked. Most posts on that site get upwards of 50; in the hundreds for hotter topics. The post just above it on their main page already had 51 responses. This B-J site is not so big it attracts bots and trolls like a Utoob comment section, so I take it to be fairly representative of what a section of the Democrat fanboi mindset is thinking. I enjoy knowing what’s going on in minds that are not like mine. Of those comments, more than half were about something else entirely (some Congriftsional special election in New York to replace that monumental liar George Santos) not the Putin interview. It was too overwhelming for these Demosuckers to even comment about. None of the commenters who stuck to the topic appeared to have watched any of the interview. No analysis of what Putin said; neither in the post or the comments. Both post/comments were mainly focused on insulting Carlson.

    I don’t like the (formerly) bow-tied twerp, but HE is not the main point here. Sadly, “life is like high school” (frequent saying on Naked Capitalism, which I agree with.) All these ding-dongs can think about is personality, not the Big Picture. So sad. These are people that I used to align with ideologically, but they keep showing themselves to be total simps.

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    • yalensis says:

      I’m glad that Tucker was impressed with Moscow, but personally, I could never live there, it’s too busy, too crowded, and the traffic jams are appalling. I don’t know how they got him around the city without him noticing the traffic congestion, it’s almost as bad as Manhattan. Plus, people on scooters and segways popping in and out between cars, very harrowing!

      There are a lot nicer Russian cities and towns. My personal favorite is Yaroslavl, a beautiful city on the Volga River. And named after my favorite Tsar, Yaroslav the Wise! And he really was a wise guy, although in physical appearance he looked a bit like a dwarf.

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    • S Brennan says:

      Balloon Juice, it’s been a long while since I commented there.

      As a hard core FDRist, alive and aware to watch DNCers/Dems reject FDRism and fully revert to the totalitarianism of Wilsonian* policies, I never belonged to that goosestepping crowd…I was banned from so many sites I wonder if that’s not one of them…who knows…who cares.

      *Yes, those policies so beloved by that German corporal with a funny mustache. And in fairness to the DNCers, their Nazism is not my father’s varietal, oh no, today’s fascism is “big-tent”…totally kosher…no more gassing of Jews unless…they’re Hamas hostages…then it’s okay.

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      • Bukko Boomeranger says:

        So Brennan, do you go all the way back to the B-J era of “I am aware of all Internet traditions!” The site was funnier and more relevant back then. Now, it’s a pale shadow of Daily Kos. I check in on it because it’s easier to see the Hillary-hugger mindset at a glance instead of scrolling through mountains of tripe at DK. B-J’s leader Cole has gotten increasingly nasty. When I read his posts, I count the number of curse words he uses, which are always egregious — foul language just for the heck of it. It tends to be one nasty word out of every 20 or 25. Sad! I have no objection to obscenity — do it plenty myself — but with forethought. Four-letter words are like three-letter agencies. They have their place, but they shouldn’t be everywhere. It shows you’re not clever if you lean on them too much. That’s why I prefer amusing work-arounds such as “gits” above and my new favourite, “fig pucker.”

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  9. james says:

    yalensis – i am reading this trilogy of posts on the letters contained in the portfolio given to carlson backwards.. it is so great that you have highlighted these.. thank you!

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