Ukraine War Day #625: Zelensky Cancels Census

And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed. And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria. And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.

Luke chapter 2

Dear Readers:

This story is already a week old, but I just saw, and it is quite interesting indeed. The author is publicist Maxim Sokolov.

Quirinius: “Don’t keep me in suspense, how many peeps I got?” Lackey: “And the magic number is…”

So, Ukraine was supposed to have a census in the year 2023. That was the year that was set in legislation, however odd.

But there will be no census, because Caesar Zelensky has just decreed: “There will be no census.” Not until the war is over. (Which sort of makes sense, one must admit.)

In theory, according to Ukrainian law, a census is supposed to be taken at least once every 10 years. Problem: The last 2 censi were taken in 1991, and then again in 2001. Since then, nada! They planned to do one in 2016, but then the government decided to put it off until 2020. But it didn’t happen then either, and so they kicked the can down the road, to 2023. But now they voted to postpone it once again, until “Six hours after the end of the war.”

Sokolov then delves into some interesting history involving censi in ancient, and modern, times. The main reason for having a census, has always been fiscal. To know, in other words, how many tax-paying members of society there are, and thus be able to plan a state budget. And also to be able to estimate how many soldiers for the army. Military strategists sort of need to know this.

Kate: “Everybody can see from this portrait that I actually have a tiny waistline, and I want those numbers NOW!!”

Back in the day, Russian Empress Catherine II once inquired, at a session of her Senate, how many Russian souls she owned. The Senators were tongue-tied and could not come up with a good answer quick enough to satisfy her.

The Empress retorted stiffly: “A great nation cannot exist without a precise count of the population. Without that, our finances are a shambles… If a kopeck is spent, and returns to the owner, without me getting my cut… How am I, a weak female, expected to rule a country if even my own Senate doesn’t know how many souls I own, of my faithful subjects?”

The Ukrainians don’t think that way, however. And it’s not just because of the war; remember, this has been going on since 2001! Why didn’t they conduct a census in 2011, as they were supposed to? What was their excuse then? Well, after Euromaidan, they certainly have a good excuse. Everybody knows what the result would be to really learn the truth about the demographics of the land…

Another important factor, of course, is that the Ukrainian government does not control all of the territory that it claims, and therefore is only capable of counting heads in the areas under their control. Ukrainian census-takers would not be allowed into Crimea or Donbass. But even in the areas they control, the Ukrainian government does not possess the resources it requires: They don’t have the money or personnel needed to devote to this task.

The 1939 census was ruined by Trotskyite-Bukharinite wreckers.

And don’t forget that Ukrainian males of a certain age range will not be keen to announce themselves to census workers, for fear they will be dragged off to the front. Nobody even knows how many males are in hiding from the mobilization. One is reminded of the days of Peter the Great. Who conducted censi in 1710 and then again in 1716. And both times massive numbers of peasants in the rural areas hid their army-age sons from the census-takers.

And even if all these problems could be overcome somehow, there is still one major obstacle: A true census would reveal the demographic collapse of the Ukraine. From a population of 51 million in 1989, to 48 million in 2001, to an estimated 20 million souls currently. And that is the optimistic estimation. Such are the fruits of the so-called “Revolution of Dignity”. Such a drastic population collapse is almost unprecedented in modern history.

Although, as Sokolov points out, the USSR itself had similar problems throughout its history. A census was taken in 1937, but Stalin did NOT like the results. He blamed “Trotskyite-Bukharinite wreckers and agents of foreign powers” for the sorry result. The census was declared “defective” and the results nullified.

Another attempt was made in 1948, but Stalin again displeased, and the census declared “defective”. The next (successful) census was taken in 1959. By that time, the USSR was finally starting to bounce back from the catastrophe of the war. Ukraine, still at war, is probably doing the rational thing, namely canceling the census.

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16 Responses to Ukraine War Day #625: Zelensky Cancels Census

  1. michaeldroy says:

    Interesting. A true census, like a true election or a true body count from the war woudl inded be shocking

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  2. MrDomingo says:

    There was no census taken prior or after but Paraguayan War is believed to have eliminated 90% of military age males of Paraguay and whole population shrank to half of what it was prior to conflict. War was in period of 1864 to 1870.

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  3. The latest Ukranazi cope:

    They didn’t really ever launch a counteroffensive, it was all a psyops!

    https://t.me/militarywave/6304

    The 90000 dead cannon fodder and wiped out Western armour are all psyops too!

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  4. The Thick Red Duke says:

    I’m surprised the King James Bible actually says that the reason for the census was to tax people. For a long period of my life I believed what I was told, namely that the kind leaders needed to know how many people they should provide with roads, schools and food and free stuff.

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    • yalensis says:

      Yeah, the newer Bibles don’t mention the taxes, for example the NIV version:
      “In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. 2 (This was the first census that took place while[a] Quirinius was governor of Syria.) 3 And everyone went to their own town to register.” It doesn’t mention the taxes.

      I don’t know which version is translated better, but I always like to use KJV because it is more poetic, being the language of Shakespeare.

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      • The Thick Red Duke says:

        It’s like the second verse of The Internationale which uses to mysteriously disappear when it is sung:

        L’État opprime et la loi triche
        L’impôt saigne le malheureux
        Nul devoir ne s’impose au riche
        Le droit du pauvre est un mot creux

        Translated:
        The state represses and the law cheats
        The tax bleeds the unfortunate
        No duty is imposed on the rich
        “Rights of the poor” is a hollow phrase

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  5. Relgh says:

    Yalensis, I believe the plural of census is census. It is a noun following the fourth declension.

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  6. raccoonburbleca says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Beirut

    Anyone following the siege of Gaza will find this interesting. It could be the start of a dive into a history of the Israeli war on their neighbours, or a memory refresher for those following it long term.

    Israel besieged Beirut for 88 days, allowing no food or water in. They killed 18000 civilians. They occupied South Lebanon until 2000, when they were driven out by the rise of Hezbollah.

    They tried to reinvade in 2006, and were totally routed. Their troops panicked and ran. They had to negotiate to get large units out of encirclements.

    The Bin Laden quote at the end is repeating a falsehood, concocted by CIA. Bin Laden died in 2001.

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    • yalensis says:

      Hezbollah are the ones that the Israelis are truly afraid of, because Hezbollah are the ones that actually kicked their asses, in the past.

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      • The Thick Red Duke says:

        HistoryLegends has a truly amazing interview with Idriss Aberkane. He thinks Hezbollah are great at defending when they’re dug in, but wouldn’t be so strong if they should attack Israel. Kinda like in Ukraine.

        Anyway, Idriss also discusses the change that has taken place in Israel with the decline of the Labor party and old style Zionism and the rise of Religious/Revisionist Zionism. It’s a long interview but it touches upon many of the issues that we’ve discussed here lately. Idriss knows his stuff and explains it well. (Warning: Worriers may find this video disturbing.)

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        • yalensis says:

          Thanks for the link, I will watch this with interest.

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          • yalensis says:

            I just finished watching it, you’re right, this is really good. Aberkane is so knowledgeable, that guy really knows his stuff! The scariest part is how so many of the players in this “Mexican standoff”, as he calls it, are driven by their irrational beliefs in fantastical/magical notions from their respective religions. None of the leaders seem to be thinking clearly.

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