Ukraine War Day #418: Finnish Revanchism – Part I

Look at Finland; she is a democratic country, more developed, more cultured than we are. In Finland a process of separation, of the differentiation of the proletariat is taking a specific course, far more painful than was the case with us. The Finns have experienced the dictatorship of Germany; they are now experiencing the dictatorship of the Allied powers. But thanks to the fact that we have recognised the right of nations to self-determination, the process of differentiation has been facilitated there. I very well recall the scene when, at Smolny, I handed the act to Svinhufvud which in Russian means “pighead” — the representative of the Finnish bourgeoisie, who played the part of a hangman. He amiably shook my hand, we exchanged compliments. How unpleasant that was! But it had to be done, because at that time the bourgeoisie were deceiving the people, were deceiving the working people by alleging that the Muscovites, the chauvinists, the Great Russians, wanted to crush the Finns. It had to be done.

Lenin, Report to the 8th Congress of the Party, March 18-23, 1919

Dear Readers:

Pehr Evind Svinhufvud, aka “Mr. Pighead”

Still on the theme of revanchism, but this time we turn our attention to Finland. Finns also claim to have a great beef against Russia. Which they can settle only by joining NATO, no matter the consequences.

I try to be open-minded, but I simply cannot grasp why Finns would have this beef at all. Ukrainians, I sort of understand… But Finns? They only ever got good things from Russia. Well, at least post-Tsarist Empire times. Like their independence (Lenin). More land than they knew what do with (Stalin). Decades of prosperity subsidized by cheap Russian fuels, consumer goods, and trade (Brezhnev and beyond). If there is anyone out there who can enlighten me, what exactly is the beef? Then please, I am all ears.

Anyhow, to help us navigate this study in madness and delusion, I have this piece by reporter Stanislav Leshchenko. Unlike certain other reporters (or internet pundits), Leshchenko is not brushing off nor diminishing the importance of Finland’s accession to NATO (as in “Ah, who cares? Crazy Finns on skis, big deal…”). He believes that this is an important development and represents a real military threat to Russia. In fact, the subtitle of his piece is:

Finland is capable of presenting a real military threat to Russia

As a pro-Russian, and as a Worrier, this worries me, naturally. But I think I would be even more worried if I were pro-Finn. Because this implication is: Once the Revenge Match starts, Russia can’t just brush Finland off like a little fly. Russia would have to really stomp them into the ground. Real good, this time around. I read on some Russian website that the Russians demonstratively showed off one of their nuke silos, with the word “Helsinki” painted inside the silo. As in, “Ready to fly, just say the word!”

Nonetheless, the Finnish people themselves are not worried at all. In fact, they are ecstatic, as Leshchenko reports in his lead paragraph:

The armed forces of Finland conducted their first war games since joining NATO. The Finns are loudly greeting this event; as the local reporters write, “A sense of euphoria reigns, along with the Hoorah mood.”

Aleksandr Kommari

Finnish publicist Aleksandr Kommari (who is a member of a Stalinist and pro-Russian political party, so definitely not a Hoorah-patriot) notes ironically: “Yes, so Finland is in NATO now. A sense of euphoria reigns, along with the Hoorah mood. Why should we care any more about those backward Russians, with their tin soldiers and weapons fit only for a museum (tinasotilaat ja museon kalusto). Some people are saying that April 4, 2023 should be regarded as our second Independence Day. Sadly, I won’t live to see the day, a couple of decades from now, when Finns will once again cry their sob stories about lastu historian laineilla – a tiny sliver tossed on the wave of history. Although they are doing it to themselves, with their own hands. On the other hand, history is moving so quickly now, that maybe I actually will live to see the debriefing with my own eyes.”

If Kommari frets about his own longevity, it must be because he is over 60 years old, although he doesn’t look nearly that old in this photo. [I’m pretty sure that’s him in the photo, though, I double-checked.]

Already a member in all but name…

Leshchenko: After the first euphoria started to die down, experts and journalists set about to clarify: Exactly what will membership in NATO bring to Finland? Not all that much that is different, actually. Taking into account that Finland became an official NATO “partner” back in 1994, and already cooperates closely with the Alliance. Not to mention, already meets all NATO “standards” in terms of technical and institutional requirements.

Finland has been participating in NATO war games for many years. Back in 1997 it joined the Council of the Euro-Atlantic partnership. A Finnish contingent fought in Afghanistan alongside American and NATO soldiers. In 2008 Helsinki joined NATO’s Quick Reaction Forces; and in 2014 it became a partner in something called the Program of Expanded Opportunities.

The Finnish Jaeger Brigade trains in Lapland.

In May 2017 Finland and NATO conducted the largest war games ever in Europe, in the Finnish province of Lapland.

Finland buys tons of American weapons. For example in 2021 they decided to buy a bunch of F-35’s. NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg is ecstatically fond of Finns, how their armed forces are so compliant with NATO standards, and how they integrate seamlessly into all of NATO’s activities.

The Finns, in turn, have much to offer NATO. Namely, its armed forces and its territory. For such a relatively underpopulated nation, Finland has a relatively large land army, and the citizens take seriously their requirement for universal conscription and service.

Minna Ålander

Minna Ålander is a Research Fellow at the Finnish Institute of International Relations, who studies how to keep the Russians at bay: “In the case of war, the size of the Finnish army could comprise up to 280,000 men, with a general reserve of 870,000. In case of necessity, we could mobilize a million men. And that’s with a population of only five and half million. Moreover, Finland has invested in anti-air defense systems and possesses an artillery that is one of the most powerful in Europe.”

One of the main questions that is asked: “Will NATO troops from other countries be stationed on Finnish soil?” Most experts believe this is unlikely. Finnish bases themselves will form the NATO forward garrisions. But there is an issue with NATO units of the so-called “Enhanced Forward Presence” program. Which has bases in all NATO countries, including neighboring Estonia. Next a few experts are quoted, pro and con, as to whether a small NATO HQ might or might not be installed on Finnish territory. Either way, it would consist of just a few dozen NATO troops and specialists, whose job would be to integrate the existing Finnish defenses into NATO. They also might engage in construction activities, such as the modernization of roads, airports and water ports; all the better to service military needs.

But what about nukes?

[to be continued]

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27 Responses to Ukraine War Day #418: Finnish Revanchism – Part I

  1. Montmorency says:

    A handful of Russian hypersonic missiles would destroy command centres and anti-air batteries. Then cruise missiles would destroy air fields and radar stations. Then a massive artillery barrage would soften the front line units.
    Then the tanks would advance.
    The Finns are deluded, so are the Poles. They look at Ukraine and think that’s war. No, you’ll have to look at 1944/45 to see how Russians fight modern, industrial war; it’s massive and bloody. And unstoppable.
    If the Russians are forced to cross the Finnish and Polish borders it’ll be a very, very unpleasant experience for the recipients.

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  2. Liborio Guaso says:

    What the puppets say in Finland has no political or military importance, for them what it is about is protecting the wealth of the country’s elite and the people keeping their job in the NATO war industry.
    For the West it is about the divide and conquer so necessary when many turn their backs on it. And no more.

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  3. michaeldroy says:

    Finland bought F-35s….
    So not so much an independent Finland making its own decisions as another US occupied state (or as some say another example of a color revolution in Europe).

    I too am a little surprise. I lived in Finland for 3 months in 1990. The feelings about Russia were neutral, Finns felt that they had had a good war, fighting both the Germans and the Russians (though they admitted they had to flip sides quite a lot to do so). On the one hand they lost Karelia, and I met people whose parents were from there. On the other hand Karelia was huge but sparsely populated and widely thought to be a polluted land of no great attraction.

    If I can explain it at all, it is perhaps that Finland felt very smug visiting Soviet countries. I went on a week end Ferry trip to drink in St Petersburg at Russian prices – loads of Finns did this regularly, more to Tallinn in Estonia. Russian school teachers would say “look at those poor Finns, all the shops full of goods because no one can afford the prices. And look at Russian shops empty because we can buy everything that is made!”
    As a student in Helsinki that made sense to me.

    That economic advantage has gone, and I guess the Russian visitors to Helsinki in the last decade have being buying up everything. Not so much fun being Finnish anymore.

    btw – you may know this but I keep having to “accept cookies” for this page. Everytime – even if I accept and refresh the page I get asked again.
    Not complaining, just feedback.

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    • MrDomingo says:

      As far as cookies are concerned, it must be some setting on your browser to never retain cookies permanently for this site. Maybe a browser extension is controlling this. Try another browser and if you accept cookies, do you get asked again next time you start your browser again? I personally have 5-6 browsers to choose from on my laptop, Brave Browser being preferred and Edge for work related stuff.

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      • yalensis says:

        Thanks for the technical advice, MrDomingo.

        michaeldroy: I was not aware that my site asked to accept cookies. I apologize for that, but it’s not my doing.
        When I visit my own site (not as myself, but just to see how it rendered, etc.) I don’t get asked to accept cookies. I mostly use Edge, because that’s what I use at work and I can’t be bothered to learn the ways of different browsers.
        I actually have cookies set off on my home browser (it’s called “broken cookies”, I saw it somewhere in the settings, hoping it would get rid of some of the ads at least). My biggest problem is that I get flooded with ads when I visit my own site!

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        • yalensis says:

          P.S. – wordpress keeps asking me if I want to upgrade to their paid version, instead of the freebie version I use. The paid version would have no ads. Maybe no cookies either, I’m not sure. I haven’t looked into it, I don’t want to pay for the service, but if it’s just a small amount that I could afford, maybe it would be worth it. I don’t know…

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          • MrDomingo says:

            Yalensis, I am a software developer but not a web developer. Browsers would maintain cookies so that some knowledge of that user wrt repeated visits and even some user related data can be stored and maintained over time. Whether these cookies are same thing as session cookies, I do not know, probably. BTW, people that use MFA, they are in danger of these session cookies being stolen and all that implied security goes out of the window. I do not know how such malware works but it is strange to have the website repeatedly prompt user to accept cookies. Anything odd behaviour must not be ignored. Question, is, does this user get affected like that only for this site or all sites and all browsers. Maybe he has AV software that is set to guard his browsing privacy in which case all web sites would be hassling him about cookies, and on all browsers.

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            • yalensis says:

              Thanks for your input, MrDomingo. I am not a web developer either, just a SQL programmer and “data scientist”, that’s what they call us now. Unfortunately, I am somewhat ignorant when it comes to operating systems and web stuff.

              Non-IT people often don’t understand how specialized we “programmers” are. But yes, this behavior with the cookies sounds odd. Maybe Michael should take his computer to a geek shop and have it scanned for viruses?

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  4. S Brennan says:

    Unless Finland decides to offer itself up upon the sacrificial alter of DC/London’s 3LA’s by becoming a forward missile base* for USa’s slower but, still effective munitions, meant to decapitate Russian leadership [good luck with that neocon theory], I do not see how this matters. Finland’s forces while high quality…are largely defensive in nature. Russia would have plenty of time to react should this change.

    I think this more about Tony “the phony” Blinken trying to save face after forever damaging Europe’s [and the USA’s] military by escalating Ukrainia into a full blown war with Russia [and promptly losing it] and then, as if that wasn’t enough, destroying Europe’s economy by blowing up the Norstream pipelines [I stress plural].

    In my life, I have never seen the US foreign policy so poorly excecuted as it has been over the past two years. And that is saying a lot as the Clinton/Bush/Obama administration [singular intended] yanked the crown from LBJ’s cold dead hands.

    I love my country but, with the present mental capacity of our overlords, the National-Security-State, at such a low ebb it hard to see us getting out of this death spiral unless our masters suddenly grew a moral spine, admitted their gross incompetence, resigned en-masse and allowed competent people to take the helm of ship nearly on the rocks.

    One thing that did surprise the heck out of me was Finland’s choice of F-35s over the Swede’s Grippen which, in my view, is a vastly superior weapons platform for Nordic conditions. An astounding choice, there must have been a lot of under the table sticks and carrots to make that deal happen as it is very much against the Finns interest. But then, their neighbor Norway is famous for it’s quislings so, perhaps some of that rubbed off on the Finns? Pity, I hold in high regard the Finns I have met..of course they’re ordinary Finns, not the elite so it’s possible that, like the US, slag rises to the top.

    *Which would lead to Finland’s annihilation.

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  5. WJ says:

    Lenin screwed Russia by letting the Finns go. Clearly you cannot trust the bastards.

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    • Stalin was planning to undo that historic blunder but the nazi invasion came in the way.

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    • yalensis says:

      The Bukharin faction was adamantly opposed to the deal. Lenin dubbed Bukharin an “ultra-left” and explained to him (at the same Party Congress) his reasoning: Lenin’s thought was that the Finnish proletariat would eventually take over the government, and then Finland would voluntarily join the Soviet Union as an autonomous Republic. Unfortunately, it didn’t happen that way.

      In hindsight, we can see everything more clearly!

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  6. max says:

    “In politics, there are no permanent friends, no permanent enemies. There are only permanent interests.”.

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  7. The main problems win Finlandistani open NATOstani membership are two:

    1. It gives Finlandistan the idea that it can with NATO support retake Viborg and Zelenogorsk, putting NATO at the gates of St Petersburg and the Kronshtadt naval base.

    2. Finlandistan and the Baltic slagheaps could, short of actual war, de facto blockade Russia’s Baltic fleet and commercial shipping by barring transit through their territorial waters.

    Either would be an existential threat to Russia.

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  8. Kaizer Hans says:

    The issue which created the finnish revanchism is the winter War. Of course they forgot all the History before and after. Helped in that by our American Friends

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  9. Sacha says:

    Interesting development is the recent purchase of the David sling defense system by Finland which allegedly could down targets from but also inside russian territory . That’s a game changer for Israel since Russia’s moderate policy (also aimed at limiting the ayatollahs influence in Syria) could end if Israel is keeping stepping on this red line.

    Nato has a plan, which is to make Russia retaliate. Finns and Eestlane boast themselves as being tools that could isolate the gulf of Finland. Are they idiots ? Is their coastal batteries or weaponry outside of Russian reach?

    I think they are cut from reality. Russia has all means to use EW, hypersonic or submarine weapons to destroy any means toisolate Piter from Kaliningrad… and if ever they tried to cut the northern root, do they believe there will be no counter strike ?

    Just one reminder. Karelians the original ones decided to flee Swedish rule and settled near Tver. Up to now there are Karelians living there who decided to remain under orthodox russian tule. The karelians thwt named themselves this way are in reality Finns from the south east of 🇫🇮 who settled down later. The history of development of real Karelia is connected to russian history. Peteozadovsk reminds of the factories built by Peter the great. Finns think that their original history began in Karelia but even the Kalevala is not Finnish but Karelian ( that may be culturally one reason of their anger towards Russia since the loyalty of Karelians to Moscow remains an unexplained reality and they blame in their collective psyche the Russians for that’ my own sketch of a theory)

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    • yalensis says:

      Thanks for that interesting comment, Sacha. That is a history that I was not familiar with.

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      • Sacha says:

        My apologies for the typos. Feel ashamed 😢

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        • yalensis says:

          It’s okay, Sacha, I didn’t even notice!
          By the way, seeing that wordpress doesn’t give you a chance to edit your own comments… if you post something and then see a typo, just post another comment with your correction. If you let me know the errata, then I can edit your original comment and remove the correction. But only if you want me to do that.

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