Ukraine War Day #815: What Kind Of Buffer Zone?

Dear Readers:

There has been a lot of excited chatter in the pro-Russian public about the Russian army possibly taking Kharkov. In yesterday’s post we heard from an “underground” woman in the area, how many Kharkov residents are hunkering down and waiting for the Russian army to liberate them.

Well, they may have a bit of a wait, and they sure better keep their mouths shut if they don’t want to be punished by the Ukrainians. Just yesterday or the day before, during his visit to China, as if to dash cold water on all of this, President Putin announced that he had no intention of taking Kharkov; that all Russia wanted was a buffer zone sufficient to protect Belgorod and other Russian cities on the border, from Ukrainian shelling.

As if in lockstep, Russian mainstream media followed suit with the new talking point; for example I have this piece by reporters Alyona Zadorozhnaya and Evgeny Pozdnyakov. The title is:

What Kind Of Buffer Zone Does Russia Need In Kharkov Oblast?

Technically, the term is Cordon sanitaire (Russian sanitarnyi koridor), which originally meant a medical quarantine zone (like, in times of plague), but later came to have a military meaning as well. Russian experts are already busy debating what must be the measurements of this new quarantine buffer that they are building.

It basically means, taping off a disaster area.

Experts warn that the creation of a buffer zone can never fully 100% guarantee the safety of Belgorod. The goal is to minimize the damage of the shelling, by putting the Russian city out of range of short-range artillery. But the Russian buffer zone must include the towns of Volchansk, Liptsy and Velikiy Burluk. The radius of the buffer should be from 25-40 kilometers.

Military correspondent Fyodor Gromov comments: “Let’s say we move the border back by 20 km, this will protect Belgorod from attack by FPV drones, light artillery, and grenade launchers. But it’s much harder to protect Belgorod from 155 mm installations: And certain Western models can reach up to 40 km. One needs to do the math and take all of this into account.”

Gromov continues: “One should also not exclude the factor of Ukrainian aviation, and their use of HIMARS. In other words, to protect Belgorod from the majority of types of weapons and installations they are using, then rightfully the front should be moved back 60 and perhaps even up to 80 km. While at the same time, beefing up our air defenses.

“I should add that we definitely need Liptsy. From there we can stage our own attacks upon military objects in Kharkov. By doing so, we deprive the Ukrainians of using the center and North of Kharkov as their logistical hub.

“By the same token, we need to take Veliky Burluk, which is located right in the middle between Volchansk and Kupyansk. From there we can exert pressure on Kupyansk. The Ukrainian Armed Forces (UAF) maintain a large grouping on the other side of the Oskol River, but we can make this area very uncomfortable for them. They would have to do some maneuvering and pull back somewhat, otherwise this grouping runs the risk of being cut off.”

Alexander Syrsky

Even the Ukrainians are admitting this. This past Friday, Ukraine’s Commander-in-Chief Alexander Syrsky, described how the Russians are pushing through with the intention of cutting off the rear of his own troops.

For the time being, military correspondent Alexei Leonkov thinks, the 40 km buffer zone should be adequate: “The borders of the buffer zone that is forming, could be Liptsy and Volchansk, but we should not exclude the possibility that our leadership is thinking about something broader than that. In the meantime, while carrying out this operation, we have to think, in parallel, about the evacuation of the local residents. Once the buffer zone has been established, the UAF will most likely start to shell whatever civilians remain inside the zone. Therefore, these civilians need to be evacuated to bordering regions of Russia,” Leonkov concludes.

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10 Responses to Ukraine War Day #815: What Kind Of Buffer Zone?

  1. Beluga says:

    Yeah, when you’re dealing with NATO dogs of war, they’ll try anything to kill a Russian, any Russian. Those are the foreign mercenaries etcetera, and earlier today the US asked formal permission of Kiev to take over targeting and firing drones and missiles — as if that hadn’t been the de facto norm anyway. Along with the evil Brits chuckling evilly up their sleeves. Hope all those mercenaries involved, and regular NATO troops in Ukie uniforms speaking with foreign tongues get to meet their maker at some point — they richly deserve death. These are the same kind of dolts who join the police to beat the sh!t out of peaceful anti war protesters in the West. The high mucky mucks do not appreciate being contradicted, so hire human dross in the form of thugs to quell the masses.

    No realistic buffer zone shuts those buggers down. Unless Kharkov is surrounded and eventually everyone starves to death. If the reports of a 50/50 split of civilian ethnicity is correct, them nobody will trust anyone else. So if Russia-leaners try to congregate, they’ll be slaughted. Drunk Ukie troops would off them. It’s a no-win situation, unfortunately. ATACMS can travel a lot more than 50 miles, just like the Iskander M. Putin is trying to turn the heat down by saying the plan is not to take Kharkov, but it obviously is, merely a question of when. Sumy will fall first go the rumours.

    God Bless America!

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  2. james says:

    thanks yalensis… your posts are always interesting and informative..

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  3. ccdrakesannetnejp says:

    Yalensis, why didn’t you mention that Putin said Russia wasn’t interested in taking Harkov “right now”? Of course Russia doesn’t want to frontally assault Harkov or Odessa in order to avoid civilian casualties, so they must have complex plans. The Russians are never simple-minded.

    At MOA b claims that the Russians temporarily took out Ukraine’s Starlink connection before the incursion began. Is the Russian press discussing this major development? Did they destroy a satellite? Use EW?

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    • yalensis says:

      Hi, cc, Oh, I did mention Putin’s comment. Or, do you mean when he said something like “right now” as opposed to “ever at all”… ? Actually, I don’t remember Putin’s exact phrase, so maybe he left it open for interpretation.

      Anyhow, the Russian press is all abuzz with that Starlink story. They are sort of gloating about how they took Starlink down, but nobody is saying how they did it! Top secret, what!

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      • JC says:

        Russia has demonstrated the ability to jam Starlink for quite some time. I’m sure they planned ahead and directed plenty of EW over the target area to ensure the AFU soldiers would have to retreat to get access to gambling sites again.

        Its similar to how they recently blacked-out GPS signals over most of the Baltics in response to the NATO exercises there (among a long list of other provocations).

        Unfortunately we cannot suggest with a straight face that Russia zapped Starlink sats. Yet. They may well have the capability to do so, just as they have demonstrated capability to befuddle targeted recon drones at range and force it down.

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        • yalensis says:

          The EW theory is the most plausible, agreed.

          I really feel bad for those Ukrainian soldiers who are addicted to online gambling, and then lose their internet connection. What are they supposed to do? How are they supposed to pass the time? It’s not like we have this thing called books…

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          • JC says:

            To be fair, they likely had books, but needed toilet paper more.

            Printing for Russian and Ukrainian-language presses are on very poor paper, mostly.

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  4. Bukko Boomeranger says:

    That‘s a complimentary shot of Syrskiyiyi, with the face-on angle. It makes him look less like a chinless frog-mouth. He’s got a geometrically square chin, but it still comes across as disproportionately small for his head. Part of the effect comes from his receding hairline, which emphasises the lightbulb shape of his gourd. (One of the old-school incandescent bulbs with the screw-in fitting, not the newer — and better! — LED lights) No matter which side you see him from, he’s not a commanderly potatogeneral. His Russian heritage — i.e. NOT potato-ish — is clear.

    Oleksandiyr (you spelled it the wrong, Russian, way in your post) needs to grow some sort of trademark facial hairstyle to balance the weakchin vibe. You’ve heard of the “mustache and a mug” look where the ‘stash blends down outside the lips into jawline hair. He should syriouskly avoid a caterpillar on his upper lip, because that would make the chin look less prominent. But if he had a pencil-thin mustache and a pointy Emperor Ming thing working the sides of his mouth, he come off as sinistyrsky. Who am I kidding, though? Commander Cauldron isn’t going to live long enough to grow it out! If the top of his head is blown apart in a FAB strike, though, the remaining chin will show up stronger. Especially if there’s nothing left above the eyeballs

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    • yalensis says:

      When time comes, he might have to disguise himself. I would suggest a red curly wig, sunglasses, and, yeah, the Ming moustache. Nobody would recognize him.

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