Russia – Israel Relations In The Aftermath – Part II

Dear Readers:

Today concluding this piece by reporters Oleg Moskvin and Mikhail Moshkin. The headline reads:

How the downing of the Russian IL-20 and the delivery to Syria of the S-300 has affected Israeli public opinion

Yesterday we learned about “elite” public opinion (which, realistically, is the only public opinion that matters, in any society) in Israel divided between “Kremlin-Optimists” and “Kremlin-Pessimists”.  According to sociologist Zeev Hanin, whom we met yesterday, the “Optimists” have been dominant during the past 10 years, due to the especially friendly relationship between Netanyahu and Putin.  People say they even finish each others sentences.  In Russian, of course.  Recent events, however (=the downing of the IL-20 and Russia’s subsequent cold-shouldering of Israel) has added grist to the Kremlin-Pessimist mill, those who believe that nothing good for Israel (or anybody else, for that matter) can come out of such an evil nation as Russia.

Hanin goes on to say that this pro- and anti-Russia divide has little to do with political party or ideology among Israelis:  “The division into Right and Left within Israel is almost entirely a function of the Arab-Israel conflict.  The relationship with the Great Powers — that is a separate issue.”  In the balance, however, there is a tilt:  the “Rights” are more interested in cooperating with Russia; the “Lefts” less so.  Israeli “left” newspapers seem to be infested with the same types of Russophobic trolls and bots as any American or European site.  For example, this “Letters to the Editor” feature of the English-language Jerusalem Post — some of these mini-manifestos sound like they could have been written by any 14-year-old anti-Russian troll on a Reddit subpage:

“Whom are we to believe?  The mentality that produced the reaction to the Kronstadt rebellion, the collectivization, the Ukrainian famine, the Kirov murder, the great purge of the 1930s, the show trials, the gulags, the Katyn massacre, the Doctors’ Plot or just recently the bizarre RT Skripal poisoning suspects’ interview?” (Mladen Andrijasevic from Beersheba, Israel)

“You see, this is all Russia’s fault…”

The only thing that Mladen forgot in his litany of Russian misdeeds over history, was Prince Igor Svyatoslavich’s unwarranted aggression against the Cumans in 1185!

All of which proves only that a section of the Israeli public — and probably not the brightest section — many of these people are in fact low-IQ Americans — are infected with the same idiotic Russophobia as regular Idiot-Americans.  Those zombies who watch CNN 24/7 and believe that Russia is all EVIL and America all VIRTUE.  Such types are usually shocked easily when one starts tossing out retorts including various American genocides, not to mention that unpleasant business mentioned in passing in Harriet Beecher Stowe’s masterwork….  “How can anybody ever trust any nation which once sold other human beings at auctions as if they were cattle and continues to lie about its warlike international intentions blah blah blah!!!”  But I digress….

Ksenia Svetlova

And returning to people with more attractive external appearances and more intelligent opinions in their blonde-draped skull-jellies:  In an interview with VZGLIAD, Knesset Deputy Ksenia Svetlova (from the Ha-Tnua Party) made the point that all political factions in Israel, whatever their other differences, are united in opposition to Syria getting the S-300’s.  They see the delivery of these systems as directly abetting Iran, and all are in agreement that they don’t want to do anything to help Iran get a foothold on Syrian territory.  But since the S-300’s are a done deal, then Israelis, she says, need to put on their thinking caps and decide what to do next, under these changed circumstances.

Svetlova, who has a pro-Russian tilt hidden deep inside her, admits that Israelis were stunned by Moscow’s reaction to the IL-20 downing:  “The harsh tone taken by Russia’s Defense Ministry shocked many people here because, in the course of several years it had seemed that our relations could only get better.

“For us,” Svetlova muses, “Russia is neither an enemy, nor indeed a country to which we feel there should be tense relations.  On the contrary:  Russia is a partner, relations with whom have improved over the past few years.  I am hoping that all the fuss and recriminations will die down, and that we will resume an interest in cooperation and making deals together, including the Syrian issue.”

Israelis Don’t Care About Russia Any More

Returning to sociologist Zeev Hanin for the final word: Hanin has been conducting surveys among Israelis who immigrated to Israel from Russia.  He finds, not surprisingly, that as time goes by and people assimilate to the new culture, they stop caring about Russia as much.  Proponents of “strategic partnership” with Russia have dropped, over the years, from 20% to only 10%.

In fact, the litmus test of “Indifference to the old homeland” is the case of the Ukraine.  Hanin:  “Four years ago 10% [of immigrants from Russia] were on somebody’s side, either Russia’s or Ukraine’s.  Today it’s only 5%.  Four years ago [respondents to the survey] were personally on one or the other side but considered that Israel should not take a position, because it’s none of our business.  Today a third [of the respondents] hold that opinion.  Four years ago half [the respondents] reckoned that the Russia-Ukraine conflict was none of our business; today that number is two-thirds.”

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