KP Interviews ex-Chief of נתיב

Here is a very interesting piece from KP.  It is an interview with a man named Yakov Kedmi, and when I googled his name, I found this youtube video-interview with him from back in July, conversation appears to be in Russian, with Bulgarian subtitles.

The KP piece names Kedmi as the ex-Chief of  the”Nativ” agency, and I had to google that to get the context.  Apparently “Nativ” (נתיב) is the Hebrew word for “Path”, and busied itself, during the Cold War, with siphoning off Jews to leave the Soviet Union and emigrate to Israel.

Biography of Yakov Kedmi

Kedmi

Yakov Kedmi, former chief of “Nativ”

KP gives the following brief biography of Yakov Kedmi:

Russian name was Kazakov.  Born in Moscow (they don’t say what year or how old he is).  In 1969 he emigrated to Israel.  Participated in the 1973 war (the 4th Arab-Israeli war), also called the 18-day war.  From 1977 onward, Kedmi worked for Nativ.  From 1992 through 1999 he headed the agency.

Translation of KP Interview with Kedmi

Interviewer is Dmitry Smirnov from “Komsomolskaya Pravda”.  I will denote him as DS, and Kedmi as YK.  Forgive me, that the interview is quite lengthy.  But it is so interesting, that I decided to translate in full:

DS:  Yakov Iosifovich, Russia is currently doing unto Syria that which Americans and Europeans tried to do for a full year.  In other words, bombing the terrorists.  So, why is the West so furious with us?

YK:  You are mistaken.  Russia is not exactly doing the same thing, as the U.S. and Europe.  Russia is fighting against ISIS, whereas they [the West] only pretended to be fighting against ISIS.  What the Americans were doing, is simply schizophrenia.

The American Sixth Fleet has ruled the Mediterranean for many decades

And the reason why they are so furious,  is because Russia has blown away all the carefully-laid plans of Washington and Riyadh.  If Russia should succeed in liquidating ISIS and the other Islamist terrorist grouplets, then this will entail the total defeat of the U.S. and its allies.  Their five-year attempt to use Civil War to overthrow Syrian President Assad, will have failed.  It will be plain to everyone, that the effectiveness of the Russian military exceeds that of the Americans.  And the main thing – that Russia will secure herself a position of strength in the Middle East, with all the ensuing consequences.  Russia will obtain a base in the Mediterranean, which will become the main base against the Sixth Fleet of the Americans.  Not to mention, that other nations of the Middle East will see what is going on, and will make the appropriate conclusions, with whom to make friends, and who is not worth the effort.

DS:  What is the reaction in Israel to Russia’s “special operation” in Syria?

YK:  Officially Israel is not opposed.  And does not express any sort of dissatisfaction with Russia’s actions.  We already stated, that we don’t agree with those who are trying to accuse Russia of something.  When our Prime Minister Netanyahu visited Moscow [yalensis:  Everybody remember the speculation over the meaning of Netanyahu’s sudden visit to Moscow about a month ago?] the purpose was to coordinate the actions of the Russian and Israeli armed forces. [yalensis again:  Am I the only person who thinks this statement is a bombshell??]

DS:  On the eve of Russia’s special operation in Syria, one by one, the leaders of the Middle Eastern countries arrived in Moscow.  Has Russia become the center of political life in the Arab world?

YK:  Without a doubt Russia has become one of the main players.  Outside of the actual regional nations, Russia is the most active and has the most weight in the process.

DS:  And yet Russia and Turkey have never been farther apart when it comes to the views on regulating the Syrian conflict.  Turkish President Erdogan has already threatened to un-friend Moscow.

YK:  Turkey has her own interests in the region.  Turkey has no interest in seeing a strong Syria.  Turkey would like to increase the influence of the Muslim grouplets, and to crush all signs of Kurdish activity, both in Syria, and in Iraq.  I certainly would not rush to include Turkey in the list of strategic allies of Russia.  Well, if we ever start to see the “South Stream” [gas pipeline] running through Turkey, then we could say that.  But for the time being, it’s all wishful thinking.

DS:  Did it surprise you, how decisively Russia acted? Barely one day passed between Putin’s chat with Obama at the U.N. and the start of the (Russian) bombing campaign.

Putin’s speech at the UN was THE BOMB!

YK:  Everything was done quite precisely!  It became quite clear, that the use of Russian aviation in Syria would begin immediately after Putin’s address at the U.N. and his conversation with Obama.  To do it sooner – would have been undiplomatic.  To do it later – poor strategy.  Putin played it like a violin.

DS:  Europe and the U.S. are constantly warning Russia:  Not to miss the target and (accidentally) start to bomb the “moderate Syrian opposition”.  Who is this, exactly?

YK:  The Syrian Opposition, I would say 50-60% of it consists of Al Qaeda and ISIS.  Of the remainder, about half – it’s “Muslim Brotherhood” types.  And the rest of them:  some non-religious opposition, and the others, basically some urban gangs.  The usual thugs, which the West lumps together as the “Opposition”.  But none of this has anything to do with the population of Syria, about 80% of whom remain on territory controlled by the Assad government.  Many people have resettled there, fleeing from ISIS and Al-Qaeda.

DS:  This is a precedent:  First time in 25 years that Russia has participated in military actions outside the borders of the former USSR.  What does this say to you?

YK:  First of all, that the situation in the world is becoming very complicated and dangerous.  Secondly, that Russia has made a decision, not to repeat the mistakes of the Soviet Union which, after 1985, distanced itself from playing an active role in the solution of the world’s problems.  (But now) Russia has simply made a conclusion, based upon what happened in Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya.

DS:  So, for over a week now, Russian aviation has been bombing the terrorists in Syria.  How do you see the further development of this operation?

Kedmi predicts that we will see Russian helicopters in Syria

YK:  For the time being, Russia has only begun to roll out its aviation; it conducts prior intelligence and investigatory bombing.  Up until now, Russian planes have not really unleashed their full power:  the bombing has not reached full capacity, for example, the military helicopters have not been brought into play, and it is precisely they (the helicopters) which are the striking force in supporting ground troops.  I have a feeling this will start to happen soon.

DS:  What does Russia want to achieve in Syria?

YK:  The immediate tactical goal, as I see it, is to help Assad’s army break out onto the Turkish-Syrian border and liberate those areas from the terrorists.  When this occurs, then all the terrorist bases will be cut off from their main support:  from Turkey.  Currently, along this (Syria-Turkey) border are to be found the main forces of the terrorists.  There are over a dozen of various sub-species of them.

Next, there will be a counter-offensive to the South of Syria, in order to liberate the underlying regions.  This task should be much simpler:  With no support, no supply of weapons, ISIS in Syria will be choked off.  It is no accident that Russia created her coordinating center (for this operation) in Baghdad.  This is the first stage, and unless there are some unexpected developments, the campaign should not take much longer than 3 to 6 months.

Already Moscow has placed severe limits on the (freedom of) other aviation in the region.  For starters, the aviation of the U.S.A.   Even the Turks, for example, cannot bomb the Kurds as freely as they would like any more.  And this way, the Kurds are more free to engage in the fight against ISIS.

Everything depends on the accomplishments of the Syrian army.

DS:  What are the odds for Russia and her coalition to enjoy success?

YK:  It all depends on the accomplishments of the Syrian army.  If the Syrians are successful, then it will turn out well for Russia.  And if not, this will be a problem, not just for Russia and Syria, but for the whole world.  Assad needs to attack NOW, the sooner the better.  Aviation alone will not solve his problems.  The situation has gotten to the point, where it is no longer possible to wait.  Procrastination will only make the situation worse.

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10 Responses to KP Interviews ex-Chief of נתיב

  1. bolasete says:

    in the real world contradictions are heightened and crises will pop. good thing we plebes have the internet for our pressure relief valve, and look for good reads ’til the all clear siren wails.
    noticed your pink pony routine at u-no-ware.
    aside from being nasty, warmongers are soooo boring. was it jenny from our mutual friend who said:’i know all your tricks and schemes.’
    the real game changer could be a strong iraqi army fighting alongside iran and syria and hezb. that would really expose the usa’s position.

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    • yalensis says:

      Dear bolasete:
      I like pink ponies! And indeed ponies of all different colors and hues!
      And furthermore, if Stalin were alive today, I am pretty sure that he would be a brony.

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  2. Lyttenburgh says:

    Me, being a payed propagandist in employ of Byelarussian KGB, Israel’s Mossad and Transmongolian Great Kuriltay, have learned about Yakov Kedmi about a year ago (maybe more) in connection with the “hot” phase of the Ukrainian Civil war. I’ve seen an interview with him on… oper.ru – a site of Dmitriy “Goblin” Puchkov – who really needs no introduction, I think.

    New and old interviews with Yakov could be found on the Russian-language ItonTV1 YouTube channel in the “Special Folder” playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3ibrYjkuwuvC2yodD2flwoInjKxcREPU

    Besides Kedmi interviews and some very rare good discussions of the current political/cultural topics, ItonTV is nearly unwatchable due to its high level of the kosher edition of rukopozhatnost’. Which is btw demonstated by the number of Dislikes to such videos.

    Now, I’ve done my job. Where are my honestly earned shekels?!

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    • yalensis says:

      It surprised me that Kedmi came off as so pro-Assad. Is that normal for an Israeli spook?
      (I realize he is supposed to be retired, but you know what they say: Once in נתיב, always in נתיב…)

      Also surprised me the comment about the world being a more diminished place once Soviet Union took the veil and withdrew from world politics in 1985. I am guessing Yakov was just a little feller when his parents moved him out from Russia to Israel, presumably in protest against the “rampant anti-Semitism” of the Brezhnev era.

      And, as you can guess, over the years I have had many debates on that topic with many different people! I am one of those people who denies there was (much) official anti-Semitism in Brezhnev era, but that’s a whole nother story.

      Aside from all that, I think there is quite a strand going on here, I pointed people’s attention to the Netanyahu visit to Moscow last month, is it just my imagination that Netan-yahoo gave Putin his blessing for this Syrian operation? Or at least promised to stay the heck out of the way?

      Some Russophiles just tend to assume that Israel is always on the side of the U.S., and always anti-Russian, and don’t even get me started on the rampant Jew-hating in, say, the RT comment forum; nonetheless, reality seems to be way more complicated than people think.
      Israel and Russia, I would say, are more “frienemies” than “enemies”.
      Having said all that, I suppose it is possible that Kedmi is just a one-off “crackpot” within his own society.

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      • Lyttenburgh says:

        Kedmi is extreamly non-hadshakable due to his comments about Ukraine and its current leadership. Its worth watching – seriously!

        Saying that – you can’t accuse him of being a “Kremlin-payed” agent either, because due to his involvement in some… shady business he was barred from enetering Russia in 2001. Still, his comments are spot on, well-balanced devoid of any idealogical baggage and he is hated by the Svidomites. Hard to believe – but this is true!

        As for Bibi’s visit to Moscow – well, first of all, there is this one thing that even the most rabid Russophobes had to admit: the relationships between Russia and Israel are at the record time high this years. And it happened under Putin, not the darling of the West Yeltsin, who basically didn’t have any coherent foreign policy. Both Kedmi and other commenters on ItonTV say that Bibi after the US’s “betrayal” don’t want to flush a rather good relations with Russia down the crapper. Russophonic aliyah (sp?) is about 1 mln people strong and they are, generally, rather sympathetic towards Russia.

        So, and this is purely my IMHO, Bibi came to Moscow not to “give his blessing” (he is not a Synedrion’s High Priest, after all), but to “test the ground” with Putin about the things to come. Getting some reasurrance that Syraian government won’t get S-300 (which can effectively screw Israel’s entire air force) and that Russia won’t arm Hezbollah to the teeth, he also promised the most sensible things possible – not to interfere with Russian planes and keep the official rhetoric neutral. Also note that official Israel’s rhetoric about Ukraine is also very neutral and Isreal didn’t sanction Russia.

        Obligatory video clip:

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        • yalensis says:

          (1) Which perfidious act does Bibi consider to be American “betrayal” ? I must have blinked and missed that one.
          (2) Yes, I think “aliyah” is the right word for Russophone diaspora in Israel . According to wiki: Aliyah is the word that describes the return of the Jewish People from the exile in the Diaspora back to the Land of Israel. The word Aliyah is derived from the verb “laalot” which means “to go up”, or “to ascend” in a positive spiritual sense. A person who makes Aliyah is called an Oleh, meaning “one who goes up”. “Oleh” also being the Ukrainian variant of “Oleg” ! 🙂
          (3) Love the video. At :30 seconds in, if I am not mistaken that is our own beloved Lev Shcharansky performing for the denizens of the “Matryoshka” in Brighton Beach, New York. As you may be aware, he holds”talent night” once a week for those handshakable ones who refuse to live by the lie.

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          • Lyttenburgh says:

            Which perfidious act does Bibi consider to be American “betrayal” ? I must have blinked and missed that one.

            Why, the Iran deal of course! According to the very own imaginary world in which Bibi spend most of his time daydreaming of “Israel Super Stronk” and “Can Into Relevance!”, the USA should have nuked Iran long time ago. Anything other than that is just an appeasement and betrayal of Israel. So he bitches, whines and demands even more lethal aid from the US to “balance” the fact that Iran will have a nuke any momemnt now.

            And why should the US MIC (Military-Industrial Complex, that’s it) refuse this? Yes, they will gladlyoblige supplying Israel and all America’s amici et foederati in the region with the US grade high-tech systems. For which maintainance they will have to pay to You Guess Who.

            Gesheft making for the Dummies.

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            • yalensis says:

              Dear Lyttenburgh:
              Oh duh! yeah, the Iran nuke deal. Of course. I almost forgot about that, seems like it has been overswept by more recent developments!

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  3. bolasete says:

    it’s hard to really empathize with israelis since they have yiddish=jewish and attempt to make a genetic case about themselves. shlomo sand in ‘invention of the jewish people’ talks of how (in usa) yiddish humor=jewish humor. i actually met netanyahu in his mit days and couldn’t stand him even then, and while his father was a scholar (i have a copy of his inquisition book), bibi was never a bright bulb, and power has not improved him. same as the degeneration of right wing us politics. wall street + tel aviv + dc = 21st century feudalism with rich enclaves sucking the life out of the proles. the west is led by some dangerous, nasty people.

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    • yalensis says:

      Dear bolasete:
      I don’t hate Israel, but I don’t empathize much with them either. I especially don’t appreciate their land-grabbing and treatment of the Palestinians and so on. The notion of “exceptionalism” and immunity, which comes from their “special relationship” with the big bully in the schoolyard.

      Also, I think you are right, that their (Israeli) political elite, personified by Netanyahu, has degenerated beyond all bounds. I think the last decent politician they had was Yitzhak Rabin, and he was assassinated by a nutter.
      I am pretty sure that ordinary Israelis are mostly okay people, just like everyone else. But have probably evolved to be different from Western and European Jews.
      Being a Europhile mostly, I especially appreciate European Jews for their contributions (way out of proportion to their actual numbers) to Western civilization. My biggest beef against Russian Jews is the “Nativ” itself, the fact that they left Russia in such large numbers the moment they had the opportunity; and thereby helped to brain-drain the Soviet Union. The country which had saved them from extermination. Seems like ingratitude to me.
      Like I mentioned, I had this debate with some of them (=Russian emigre Jews). They claimed that I don’t know what I am talking about, that the level of anti-Semitism in Brezhnev’s era was unendurable, and they simply had to leave. But I am not buying it. Like, instead of being admitted to Moscow University (because of the ethnic quotas), maybe some of them had to attend a regional university instead. So, what was the alternative? An Israel constantly at war with its neighbors? I know for a fact that a lot of these emigres ended up living in some shabby trailer in an occupied Palestinian olive grove.
      The only real excuse that I buy is the ideological one: If someone was really, determinedly a fervent ideological Zionist and just burned to return to the Promised Land – okay, I accept that. I don’t agree with the ideology, but I accept that other people do.

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